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When you look at the players Forest have, they have no business being fifth-bottom of the Prem. You then look above them, though, and see a bunch of other sides to good to be there; the standard at the top is poor, as it is all around Europe, but the middle of the table is ridiculously strong.
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FULL-TIME: Nottingham Forest (4) 1-2 (3) Fenerbahce
Forest move on 4-3 on aggregate and will face Midtjylland or Real Betis next.
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90+4 min Fener did well to make a match out of this; Forest, though, had more than enough once they got most of their best players on.
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90+1 min “Roma, Lyon and Stuttgart all have players that can do something special, and coaches who have a clear plan and sensible tactics,” returns Kári Tulinius. “They should be in the conversation for potential winners.”
Yeah, I’m interested to see how Stuttgart get on and I’m interested in Manu Koné gets up to in the later rounds. I think it’s fair to say Villa are the best team left, but they seem to be running out of form and fitness.
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90 min We’ll have four additional minutes.
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89 min Anderson stomps forward and, with the outside of his foot, stabs hutchinson away through the middle. His first touch takes him clear but, eager to get the ball on to his left foot, he telegraphs his finish, firing straight into Tarik.
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88 min Asensio drives at the heart of the Forest defence and when no one comes to meet him, he shoots low, hard and straight at Ortega, who spills the shot nevertheless.
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85 min “European football is creaking from the weight of its many sleeping giants,” says Kári Tulinius, “but Turkey feels unique in having so many. Fenerbache, even though they’re probably going out, have been very good this season, and the same goes for Galatasaray and Samsunspor. Maybe the Turkish clubs are finally stirring.”
Turkish football has changed a lot in my lifetime – when I was a kid, England hammered them 8-0 and 5-0, but it’s obviously not like that now. I guess the relatively poor depth in some of the bigger European leagues, and the lack of money in some of them too, is also helpful and if you’re a player, there’s a lot of fun to be had competing for titles especially if that’s not been a feature of your career.
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83 min There’s not much quality left in this competition, looking at the teams remaining. It’s a cup, so anything can happen, but Forest and Villa both have a good chance of doing something, though I also fancy Porto, whose manager, Francesco Farioli, knows something.
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82 min Palace still lead Zrinjski 2-1 on aggregate, with just two minutes of the 90 to go.
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79 min Hutchinson carries forward – there’s been real conviction in his play tonight – and he slides a pass forward for Jesus, who first and second touch are good, taking him between Guendouzi and Demir … he’s in! Tariq is out smartly, but he should still score … except he drills a low shot into the keeper’s sprawl.
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77 min Someone, Kante I think, flings a long pass at Akturkoglu, who controls well – he looks a decent player – but as he brings the ball down, it’s confiscated from him.
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76 min Two more changes for Fener, Brown and Cherif off with Mercan and Ekici coming on.
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75 min That goal has taken all the puff out of Fener and Forest are going for another, the ball breaking to Hudson-Odoi on the left edge of the box and his insta-curler scooshing just wide of the far post.
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72 min Sangare’s composure has made a big difference to Forest. I enjoy his simple but aggressive passing, and also his physicality.
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70 min Years ago now, I was on a train from London to Manchester and overheard someone I presumed to be an agent type, ostentatiously announcing that “Jadon” was further ahead in his career than “Callum”, but “Callum” was a better player than “Jadon”. Credit where it’s due, he was right.
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GOAL! Nottingham Forest (4) 1-2 (2) (Hudson-Odoi 68)
Trickery out wide from Aina – what a good player he’s become and what a difference he’s made in this game – dipping inside Brown then teasing him with footwork before arcing a cross to the back post. Twelve yards out, Hudson-Odoi controls well, his first touch taking him inside, before he nips the other way, a low shot flicking off Semedo and finding the far corner. That, surely, is Forest into the galactic orb or whatever for tomorrow’s draw.
Callum Hudson-Odoi scores for Forest! Photograph: Gareth Copley/Getty ImagesShare
Updated at 16.36 EST
67 min Ortega still isn’t right, but if Forest bring on Angus Gunn, who’s warming up, they can’t use any more subs – and have an emergency Gibbs-White on the bench.
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66 min Hudson-Odoi attacks Semedo on the outside and floats a cross towards the back post … and behind.
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66 min Fiorentina, by the way, lost 4-2 to Jagiellonia Bialystock on the night, so go through 5-4 on aggregate.
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64 min Brown looks to run a ball behind, but Jesus pressurises, applies a tiny shove, and he takes the opportunity to fall over; the ref appraises a free-kick.
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62 min Asensio comes on in place of Oguz.
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61 min Aina wins it off Kante high in midfield, finds Hutchinson who skips away from Brown … only to overhit his cross.
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61 min Asensio is going to join us shortly. That’s a pretty decent change to have in your back pocket.
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59 min Ortega is fine for now and on we go.
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57 min A long channel-ball for Cherif, Cunha in pursuit, and Ortega races out with no serious prospect of getting it. In the event, it skids into touch, but the keeper has jiggered his calf; it’s not yet clear if he can continue.
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56 min He swings flat and into the middle; Tariq claims easily.
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55 min Forest are looking dangerous down their left, Williams finding Hudson-Odoi, who wins a corner – Anderson to take.
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53 min Forest have been much better since conceding the second and attack down the left, Hudson-Odoi laying back for williams, who leathers a shot that might be headed for the far corner. Guendouzi, of course, moves his phizog out of the way, calculating with perfect judgment that it’s going wide, which it is. That, or he didn’t fancy wearing one for his team.
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52 min Hutchison turns adroitly in centrefield and finds Jesus, who spread to Aina, rampaging forward. He should go alone, but is seduced by how nice it’d look if the pass into the middle was on, letting it go to see it intercepted by one of the 73 defenders in the road.
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49 min Pereira will be pleased he’s got his best players on already, and when Hutchinson passes infield Guendouzi hesitates and Cunha arches on to it! He’s into the box, he could takes another touch but instead shoots low … too close to the keeper. That, my friends, is what I call a Lukaku finish, high percentage but often not the ideal one for the situation.
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GOAL! Nottingham Forest (3) 0-2 (1) Fenerbahce (Akturkoglu pen 48)
The keeper dives left and Akturkoglu confidently rolls right. This is a game.
GAME ON! Photograph: Marc Atkins/Getty ImagesShare
Updated at 16.13 EST
47 min VAR upholds the on-pitch call. This could make things very interesting.
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Updated at 16.11 EST
46 min PENALTY TO FENER!
Fener get it forward, Oguz races down the right and Williams falls over, then the cut-back brings Cunha and Akturkoglu together. The striker takes the ball away with his first touch, falls, and I don’t think there’s contact. We shall see what VAR reckons.
Uh oh. Photograph: Alex Livesey/Getty ImagesShare
Updated at 16.16 EST
46 min We go again…
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Our teams are back out, and Vitor Pereira has seen enough – he’s bringing on Aina, Hudson-Odoi, Igor Jesus and Sangare for Murillo, Yates, McAtee and Lucca; Fener try Semedo for the injured Nene.
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Half-time email: ““You talked about Anderson, begins Karen Asad. “You think he might be the missing piece in Man nited’s midfield and make a formidable partnership with Mainoo? I trust him more than Baleba. What about Gibbs-White for Bruno? I think that might work fine too.”
I think that of the three domestic players United are said to be watching – Anderson, Baleba, Wharton – he’s the best fit, but he may well have better offers. I really like Gibbs-White, but if Bruno were to leave, it’d need a big tactical rethink because of the numbers that’d be lost.
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Elsewhere, Crystal Palace lead Zrinjski 1-0 on the night, 2-1 on aggregate.
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HALF-TIME: Nottingham Forest (3) 0-1 (1) Fenerbahce
This is a contest. If Forest don’t start creating, they’re vulnerable.
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45+3 min I’m interested in how Archie Brown came to move from West Brom to Lausanne. It’s great to see young players getting the experience of living and working in different countries.
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Updated at 15.50 EST
45+1 min Here come Fener again, a lovely ball floated over the top by Kante, picking out Akturkoglu, whose lovely backheel, flicked square, puts Cherif in! He shoots low … and Ortega dives right to shovel it away. Another narrow escape for Forest.
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45 min We’re going to have four additional minutes.
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43 min Fener will think they can win this – Forest haven’t threatened a goal, whereas they’ve scored one and could’ve had a second. If they were to nick another, things’d get very nervous indeed.
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41 min Hutchinson plays back to Murillo, waiting on the left touchline, but too hard and too wide of him, Oguz collecting and powering away. He looks up, sees Akturkoglu arriving into the box, and clips back … only for a half-hit finish to bobble wide of the far post. That was a chance, and another warning for Forest.
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40 min Lucca ploughs through Ismail and is booked.
Lorenzo Lucca gets a yellow for a late lunge on Ismail. Photograph: Mike Egerton/PAShare
Updated at 15.45 EST
39 min Risky pass from Ancderson, who turns away from Nene, facing his own goal, nicely done, but his square-ball to Morato is ill advised and ill controlled, Cherif collecting and hacking into the side-netting.
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38 min In general play, Forest have been OK, but they’re yet to create a chance, most recently Williams crossing too high even for Lucca.
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37 min It’s absolutely caning down; naturally there’s a youngster in the crowd in short sleeves. Hold tight!
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36 min Forest half-clear and Akturkoglu sends it back in, the ball bouncing and skidding, forcing Ortega to get involved … and his handling is secure.
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34 min McAtee into the box, dipping inside to create a crossing angle, and the cross arrives at Anderson who can’t sort out his feet in time to direct a shot on target. No doubt there’s a chart that suggests to the contrary, but as far as the eye test goes, Anderson covers a vomitous amount of ground. Anyway, back to the game, Fener win a corner.
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33 min On the touchline, Vitor Pereira tells Murillo to calm himself, always the best way to placate someone experiencing fury. My wife and daughter are particular fans.
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33 min I would, though, like to see Anderson improve his short passing between the lines – I think he’s got it in his locker, and those, more than the big switches, allow a player to dictate a game.
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32 min Forest win it in midfield and Dominguez finds McAtee, who’s dispossessed by Brown. Anderson then tries a long pass – he’s really good at them – but the skiddy pitch takes it away.
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30 min Fener get the corner away but Forest are doing a decent job of boxing them in and win another immediately, Kante and Guendouzi getting it away.
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28 min Forest win a free-kick on the right, 30 yards from goal. Anderson and Hutchinson are behind it; the latter moves away, then the former sends in an outswinger, and Demir’s header concedes the corner.
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26 min We might criticise Forest for leaving it 2v2 at the back, but they should play this game as though it’s 0-0 not 3-0, and be able to rely on their defenders to go man -to-man at the back.
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24 min Anderson motors into the inside-left channel, his run telling Hutchinson what to do. He turns inside Oguz superbly but far too easily and sees a shooting lane open up so, from a tight angle, he fires a hard, low inswinger … just past the far post.
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GOAL Nottingham Forest (3) 0-1 (1) Fenerbahce (Akturcoglu 22)
Immediate counter from Fener, Cherif marauding down the right, and his cross just about eludes Williams, who faceplants for extra points. Meantime, Akturcoglu controls and swishes a low shot into the far corner. Game on?
Kerem Akturkoglu scores the opener for Fenerbahce. Photograph: Oli Scarff/AFP/Getty ImagesShare
Updated at 15.46 EST
